Comments on: system desktop startup on Fedora: let’s do it in 20 seconds

By: Embedded Guy

Embedded Guy — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 07:32:45 +0000

> It just doesn’t resume anymore. And hibernate doesn’t
> work either. It just shows a blinking cursor forever.

Do you think your phone needs to “hibernate” and “resume”?

With properly designed software and hardware you wouldn’t need to hibernate. When software is not used, it doesn’t do anything (use/wakeup HW). When hardware (CPU, display, WLAN etc), isn’t used, it’s shut off and each component can do this independently. If the HW components don’t take power while shut down, there’s no need to put the whole machine down (and then resume).

By: Swfblag » Blog Archive » new macbook

Swfblag » Blog Archive » new macbook — Wed, 27 Jun 2007 07:21:17 +0000

[...] The ugly This is the stuff I couldn’t make work. Luckily it’s all software issues, so I have hopes. Number one: Suspend doesn’t work. Boy, is a notebook without suspend useless. Especially because startup still takes ages (go blizzard, go hughsie!). It just doesn’t resume anymore. And hibernate doesn’t work either. It just shows a blinking cursor forever. The brightness controls don’t work either and I was too lazy to install desrt’s hack. I’d prefer to have it fixed properly. And last but not least, the volume controls for the sound card get totally mixed up. This seems to be a problem with the drivers, since even alsamixer labels the sliders wrong. [...]

By: tecosystems » links for 2007-06-27

tecosystems » links for 2007-06-27 — Wed, 27 Jun 2007 04:23:54 +0000

[...] Christopher Blizzard » Blog Archive » system desktop startup on Fedora: let’s do it in 20 seconds this would be a legitimate reason to consider switching to Fedora (tags: Fedora startup time Linux desktop ChristopherBlizzard) [...]

By: Ed

Ed — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:14:34 +0000

To be honest, I was quite optimistic when I said that Maemo boots in 20s. In fact it’s more like 40s. but I installed many apps that slow the startup process. When the OS is clean it’s quite impressive to see it boot so fast. It’s not as fast as my wife’s Palm but compared to a computer, it’s way faster.

By: blizzard

blizzard — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:56:04 +0000

Ed – Totally agreed on all fronts. I haven’t looked at Maemo yet, but I’m sure we will. We’re still using all of the same startup stuff right now and as we go and change that we will take a look around at the details of what other people are doing.

By: Ed

Ed — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:18:16 +0000

I might be wrong to tell this because I’m not a developper but from a user point of view, having a device to boot in 20s. is possible. My Nokia n800 running Maemo Linux boots in 20s. Nokia n800 and OLPC XO are both devices with specific components not subject to change from one user to another (unlike PCs) so it seems possible to clear things that will never be used in any case with these devices (RAID like you mentionned or anything else).
Maybe you should have a look at Maemo’s way of starting the OS ?
By the way, focusing on how to improve startup time for XO may result in better startup time for PCs also and that is great.

By: Stu

Stu — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:47:41 +0000

Yes, please sort out startup… using HAL seems like a great idea… of course, what would be cool, would be shutting down services when their not being used too…

That way, if I use apache for some dev work it would start when I go to localhost, but if I start doing something else it could shut itself down after not being used for a while. (at the moment, computers seem to be able to start up services automatically, but not shut them down, freeing up the memory and cpu)

By: Fedora, ‘gnaa famo in 20 secondi? « pollycoke :)

Fedora, ‘gnaa famo in 20 secondi? « pollycoke :) — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:40:50 +0000

[...] 22 Giugno 2007 @ 0:44 Posted by felipe in Comunità, News e altre Sciccherie, Fedora, Ubuntu. trackback Uno degli obiettivi che il team di Fedora si sta imponendo è quello di abbassare i tempi di avviodel sistema fino a 20 secondi. [...]

By: Kevin Kofler

Kevin Kofler — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:25:53 +0000

udev takes 20 seconds to start up on my laptop too. It’s a 266 MHz Pentium II running FC6.

By: Stephen Smoogen

Stephen Smoogen — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:36:12 +0000

Actually, didn’t we go through this with the 5.2 or 6.0 startup times. I remember that a lot of new solutions were found and tried out when someone over in development made Raster, Johnson, and the rest at the Red Hat Labs use the machines like the ones that Support had to use for a couple of days instead of the developer nuclear powered ones.

Enforce a 500Mhz limit on some of the developer groups, and you might be able to get them to deal with a lot of things that are ‘non-interesting/hard’ [memory usage, startup speeds, disk-size, etc.] Actually just having a group of developers do that for a couple of weeks could be the whole F8 goal :P.

Smoogen