Comments on: different approaches http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/2007/11/different-approaches/ I love you. Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:08:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Christopher Blizzard · different approaches « Site Super Tracker http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/2007/11/different-approaches/comment-page-1/#comment-245194 Christopher Blizzard · different approaches « Site Super Tracker Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:30:30 +0000 http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=316#comment-245194 [...] Today found this great post, here is a quick excerpt : I’ve always been a little uneasy about the practice of keeping track of new feature requests through the bug tracker. I know it is attractive from an administrative point of view, but the “moziila won’t fix bugs” thing is one of the … Read the rest of this great post Here [...] [...] Today found this great post, here is a quick excerpt : I’ve always been a little uneasy about the practice of keeping track of new feature requests through the bug tracker. I know it is attractive from an administrative point of view, but the “moziila won’t fix bugs” thing is one of the … Read the rest of this great post Here [...]

]]> By: shaver http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/2007/11/different-approaches/comment-page-1/#comment-52818 shaver Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:48:50 +0000 http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=316#comment-52818 Luis: I don't know why it appears to be the case that nobody reviews blockers to keep them meaningful. Nothing gets on the blocker list without having been approved there by a member of a knowledgeable group of people, and they are periodically reviewed to make sure that things we thought deserved the blocking+ flag -- not always "must absolutely block the release", as has been explained all over the place -- still fit. This process is pretty visible through the planning newsgroup and bugzilla, though not through the headlines of this round of articles. (If people hate software because of one old bug, for which there are workarounds present in the form of extension, I suspect those people hate _all_ software. I would certainly have a hard time choosing an operating system on that basis, to say nothing of a mail client, debugger, or image editor!) Luis: I don’t know why it appears to be the case that nobody reviews blockers to keep them meaningful. Nothing gets on the blocker list without having been approved there by a member of a knowledgeable group of people, and they are periodically reviewed to make sure that things we thought deserved the blocking+ flag — not always “must absolutely block the release”, as has been explained all over the place — still fit. This process is pretty visible through the planning newsgroup and bugzilla, though not through the headlines of this round of articles.

(If people hate software because of one old bug, for which there are workarounds present in the form of extension, I suspect those people hate _all_ software. I would certainly have a hard time choosing an operating system on that basis, to say nothing of a mail client, debugger, or image editor!)

]]> By: blizzard http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/2007/11/different-approaches/comment-page-1/#comment-52784 blizzard Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:46:40 +0000 http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=316#comment-52784 We seem to be pretty good about setting priorities for people, which is somewhat different than blocking vs. non-blocking status. But you're right that is something that needs to be clarified. As shaver mentioned in his blog, we have a lot more people setting blocking status, so I think we need consensus on when something should hit the blocking list. We seem to be pretty good about setting priorities for people, which is somewhat different than blocking vs. non-blocking status. But you’re right that is something that needs to be clarified. As shaver mentioned in his blog, we have a lot more people setting blocking status, so I think we need consensus on when something should hit the blocking list.

]]> By: Luis Villa http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/2007/11/different-approaches/comment-page-1/#comment-52736 Luis Villa Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:36:29 +0000 http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=316#comment-52736 Bug trackers are as good, or as bad, as the people who use them. If no one reviews 'blockers' to keep them meaningful (apparently the case here?), then of course the bug tracker will be a lousy way to handle the release. If blocker actually means something like blocking, then you can have a meaningful discussion with the bug tracker as the reference and organizational tool. Bug trackers are as good, or as bad, as the people who use them. If no one reviews ‘blockers’ to keep them meaningful (apparently the case here?), then of course the bug tracker will be a lousy way to handle the release. If blocker actually means something like blocking, then you can have a meaningful discussion with the bug tracker as the reference and organizational tool.

]]> By: blizzard http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/2007/11/different-approaches/comment-page-1/#comment-52533 blizzard Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:07:36 +0000 http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=316#comment-52533 I've actually thought that a bug tracker was a terrible place to drive a release. But it's a good enough hammer than most people will just use it as opposed to writing something else. I’ve actually thought that a bug tracker was a terrible place to drive a release. But it’s a good enough hammer than most people will just use it as opposed to writing something else.

]]> By: Martins Skele http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/2007/11/different-approaches/comment-page-1/#comment-52462 Martins Skele Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:16:24 +0000 http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=316#comment-52462 I've always been a little uneasy about the practice of keeping track of new feature requests through the bug tracker. I know it is attractive from an administrative point of view, but the "moziila won't fix bugs" thing is one of the consequences. A separate feature dtatabase would make it more difficult for people with a need to poke at the project to assume a high tone of righteousness. Martins I’ve always been a little uneasy about the practice of keeping track of new feature requests through the bug tracker. I know it is attractive from an administrative point of view, but the “moziila won’t fix bugs” thing is one of the consequences.

A separate feature dtatabase would make it more difficult for people with a need to poke at the project to assume a high tone of righteousness.

Martins

]]> By: frob http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/2007/11/different-approaches/comment-page-1/#comment-52452 frob Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:07:52 +0000 http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=316#comment-52452 Hej Christopher! We love you too, but we have a very good reason to hate firefox: http://blogs.gnome.org/sudaltsov/2007/08/21/hall-of-shame-anywhere/ -- Cheers, Valek Hej Christopher!

We love you too, but we have a very good reason to hate firefox:
http://blogs.gnome.org/sudaltsov/2007/08/21/hall-of-shame-anywhere/

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Cheers,
Valek

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