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	<title>Comments on: Firefox 3 Beta 4, memory usage, and what this beta release means for mobile</title>
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		<title>By: Firefox 3: Dominando el uso de memoria &#171; Mozilla Links en español</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firefox 3: Dominando el uso de memoria &#171; Mozilla Links en español</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] una cosa más, como indica Chris Blizzard [en]: &#8220;Y esto ¿qué significa en un contexto de dispositivos móviles? Es bastante sencillo en [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Christoph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christoph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 08:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been a die-hard fan and seriously regular user of FF2 and obviously delighted with FF3 beta 4, I would like to second the comments left here on the startup time. Having killed off all unnecessary processes and programmes running in background on my laptop, the startup time is still something that needs some looking at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been a die-hard fan and seriously regular user of FF2 and obviously delighted with FF3 beta 4, I would like to second the comments left here on the startup time. Having killed off all unnecessary processes and programmes running in background on my laptop, the startup time is still something that needs some looking at.</p>
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		<title>By: jiMMY</title>
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		<dc:creator>jiMMY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’ve been wanting to share this info on nvidia, firefox, fedora forums but they all require annoying registration. Hope this will help your firefox scrolling problems

Can you test the scrolling with firefox 3 &amp; epiphany and let me know
if scrolling is sluggish

Firefox slow scrolling fixed?
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Using out-of-the-box Xorg’s “nv” driver, Firefox has really slow or sluggish scrolling on certain websites (http://www.firingsquad.com/) rendering this world-class-browser almost useless.

I cannot blame the driver as both Opera &amp; Konqueror browsers work just fine (QT &amp; GTK issue?). Yet, I cannot blame the browser as changing to Vesa or Nvidia’s driver, fixed the problem.

Here are the workarounds:

***Vesa - monitor’s refresh rate is fixed at 60 Hz (headaches).

***Nvidia - manual installation (recompiling or missing dev. tools on liveCD) but provide other goodies (OpenGL)

***Nv - Enable ShadowFB option seems to fixed it but I think this option is deprecated? I really hope not, because I have not find other workarounds for this out-of-the-box driver (If anyone knows, please reply).

I don’t know why they (Xorg, Fedora or Ubuntu) don’t just enable this option by default because browsing the internet is one of the main activities for majority of users on a computer (after games, SETI, etc. rolleyes). Crippling this world-class-browser certainly will hamper Linux’s adoption for newcomers who relie on out-of-the-box drivers

Section “Device”
Identifier “Videocard0″
Driver “nv”
Option “ShadowFB” “true”
EndSection

I do not know if this problem affects ATi users but I am sure you can find a similar workaround and post it for all. You will have to check if ati drivers have shadowfb options</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been wanting to share this info on nvidia, firefox, fedora forums but they all require annoying registration. Hope this will help your firefox scrolling problems</p>
<p>Can you test the scrolling with firefox 3 &amp; epiphany and let me know<br />
if scrolling is sluggish</p>
<p>Firefox slow scrolling fixed?<br />
———————————-</p>
<p>Using out-of-the-box Xorg’s “nv” driver, Firefox has really slow or sluggish scrolling on certain websites (<a href="http://www.firingsquad.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.firingsquad.com/</a>) rendering this world-class-browser almost useless.</p>
<p>I cannot blame the driver as both Opera &amp; Konqueror browsers work just fine (QT &amp; GTK issue?). Yet, I cannot blame the browser as changing to Vesa or Nvidia’s driver, fixed the problem.</p>
<p>Here are the workarounds:</p>
<p>***Vesa &#8211; monitor’s refresh rate is fixed at 60 Hz (headaches).</p>
<p>***Nvidia &#8211; manual installation (recompiling or missing dev. tools on liveCD) but provide other goodies (OpenGL)</p>
<p>***Nv &#8211; Enable ShadowFB option seems to fixed it but I think this option is deprecated? I really hope not, because I have not find other workarounds for this out-of-the-box driver (If anyone knows, please reply).</p>
<p>I don’t know why they (Xorg, Fedora or Ubuntu) don’t just enable this option by default because browsing the internet is one of the main activities for majority of users on a computer (after games, SETI, etc. rolleyes). Crippling this world-class-browser certainly will hamper Linux’s adoption for newcomers who relie on out-of-the-box drivers</p>
<p>Section “Device”<br />
Identifier “Videocard0″<br />
Driver “nv”<br />
Option “ShadowFB” “true”<br />
EndSection</p>
<p>I do not know if this problem affects ATi users but I am sure you can find a similar workaround and post it for all. You will have to check if ati drivers have shadowfb options</p>
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		<title>By: Zia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also very concerned about the long startup time on my laptop. Please can thsi be improved somehow?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also very concerned about the long startup time on my laptop. Please can thsi be improved somehow?</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Breedt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon Breedt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 05:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FF3 is now my primary browser again - It is a vast improvement on 2.x.

I&#039;m not *that* concerned about startup speed - Now that it is much more conservative with memory usage I&#039;m happy to leave it running indefinitely.

Good job, and the hard work you put into streamlining resource consumption and UI polishing is definitely noticed and appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FF3 is now my primary browser again &#8211; It is a vast improvement on 2.x.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not *that* concerned about startup speed &#8211; Now that it is much more conservative with memory usage I&#8217;m happy to leave it running indefinitely.</p>
<p>Good job, and the hard work you put into streamlining resource consumption and UI polishing is definitely noticed and appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Firefox 3 Smaller Memory Footprint Than IE and Opera &#124;PinoyTux Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/2008/03/firefox-3-beta-4-memory-usage-and-what-this-beta-release-means-for-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-81589</link>
		<dc:creator>Firefox 3 Smaller Memory Footprint Than IE and Opera &#124;PinoyTux Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mozilla evangelist Christopher Blizzard, who also wrote about the memory improvements, offers readers another insightful take-home message: the small memory footprint in the latest Firefox 3 beta, he says, is proof that Firefox is ready for mobile environments. &#8220;What it shows to anyone who looks is that we&#8217;re able to hit the kinds of memory and performance requirements that mobile platforms demand,&#8221; wrote Blizzard. &#8220;Users who use our software on mobile devices can expect web sites that just work, access to add-ons all balanced against the hardware limits imposed by mobile devices. In essence, we can bring that no compromises approach to mobile, just as we&#8217;ve done it with the desktop.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mozilla evangelist Christopher Blizzard, who also wrote about the memory improvements, offers readers another insightful take-home message: the small memory footprint in the latest Firefox 3 beta, he says, is proof that Firefox is ready for mobile environments. &#8220;What it shows to anyone who looks is that we&#8217;re able to hit the kinds of memory and performance requirements that mobile platforms demand,&#8221; wrote Blizzard. &#8220;Users who use our software on mobile devices can expect web sites that just work, access to add-ons all balanced against the hardware limits imposed by mobile devices. In essence, we can bring that no compromises approach to mobile, just as we&#8217;ve done it with the desktop.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lo que vendra con firefox 3 &#171; Robextrem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lo que vendra con firefox 3 &#171; Robextrem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sobre estos resultados, Christopher Blizzard ha comentado que esto será una buena noticia en el mundo de los dispositivos móviles ya que les facilitará mucho las cosas y mejorará la experiencia de los usuarios no distanciándose mucho de la navegación en escritorio. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sobre estos resultados, Christopher Blizzard ha comentado que esto será una buena noticia en el mundo de los dispositivos móviles ya que les facilitará mucho las cosas y mejorará la experiencia de los usuarios no distanciándose mucho de la navegación en escritorio. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Q Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Q Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred--

Out of curiosity I tried http://planet.fedoraproject.org/ in Epiphany.  Scrolls much better than Firefox 2.  And I thought they were the same all this time.  Not that I encourage anyone to use Epiphany, but it is o.k. if you can do without the plugins (especially the AWESOME NoScript).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred&#8211;</p>
<p>Out of curiosity I tried <a href="http://planet.fedoraproject.org/" rel="nofollow">http://planet.fedoraproject.org/</a> in Epiphany.  Scrolls much better than Firefox 2.  And I thought they were the same all this time.  Not that I encourage anyone to use Epiphany, but it is o.k. if you can do without the plugins (especially the AWESOME NoScript).</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately beta 4 is broken (for me) - back button doesn&#039;t work and various other things I forget.  Beta 3 is great though, and I&#039;m still using it as my main browser on a Pentium III/700 with 512 MB, which is suddenly much more pleasant to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately beta 4 is broken (for me) &#8211; back button doesn&#8217;t work and various other things I forget.  Beta 3 is great though, and I&#8217;m still using it as my main browser on a Pentium III/700 with 512 MB, which is suddenly much more pleasant to use.</p>
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		<title>By: Kuno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kuno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The performance of FF3 is really impressive with regard to most aspects. But in terms of startup time, FF3 clearly is a step backwards: 

I&#039;m a bit surprised that not more people are complaining, but in particular on slightly outdated machines with a slow hard disk (Laptops) or with a fragmented file system, entering the first URL or filling in the first HTML form is accompanied with a blocking/freezing GUI and the harddisk trashing for far more than just two or three seconds.

Apart from that - thanks anyone for this great product!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The performance of FF3 is really impressive with regard to most aspects. But in terms of startup time, FF3 clearly is a step backwards: </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a bit surprised that not more people are complaining, but in particular on slightly outdated machines with a slow hard disk (Laptops) or with a fragmented file system, entering the first URL or filling in the first HTML form is accompanied with a blocking/freezing GUI and the harddisk trashing for far more than just two or three seconds.</p>
<p>Apart from that &#8211; thanks anyone for this great product!</p>
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